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Ronald Decker's avatar

Here i am reading this article when i have just requested you to dialog with me about my own project.

Ah well. There is that phrase i hate. Give a new project to someone busy if you want to see it get done. I hate it because it is true when i am in that mode and have taken on too many projects as that is when i am most likely to get stuff done. Worse, though is when i have slowed down my life, it is precisely because i have taken on too much. And it is true. In these times, i am the last person to complete a project on time.

At least, if it is my own project. If it is someone else asking for them? I drop what i am doing and help. Is this a relational mindset? It probably comes from 25 years of serving those with disabilities, raising children and my own self identity being wrapped up in service. Hard to get out of it. Is this a good thing? No and yes. I certainly take a much different perspective than PB.

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If being relational is the default, and there are large benefits to cultures adopting individualism (human rights, etc.) as opposed to the kind of collectivism that has characterized most of human civilization, could it be argued that inculcating individualistic values is a good thing? I see it as analogous to socializing people not to solve their disputes by resorting to violence. Since anger is something that comes naturally to humans, you have to teach them not to start fights, and further to treat others with respect even if you could beat them in a fight. That said, there likely are better ways to balance the role that the promotion of individualism plays in combating the downsides of groupishness and people free riding off the work down by people who are more relational. I guess I genuinely fear a more relational culture because I think that would make men more clannish, more fraternal and more patriarchal and more gang like, like they were in the US in the recent past.

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